{"id":1312,"date":"2021-01-01T19:31:06","date_gmt":"2021-01-01T19:31:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/?p=1312"},"modified":"2021-05-03T11:21:32","modified_gmt":"2021-05-03T11:21:32","slug":"which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/","title":{"rendered":"Which Is Harder, Band Or Orchestra?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Skilled amateurs and advanced learners of woodwind, brass, or percussion instruments who are considering careers as professional musicians often wonder which of band or orchestra is more challenging. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Playing in an orchestra is typically harder than a band. Orchestral music is more complex and the fewer wind and percussion players are more exposed than in a band. Although <a href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/is-marching-band-hard\/\">marching bands may seem physically harder<\/a>, playing demanding orchestra music is also physically and mentally taxing.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s first take a look at how band and orchestra differ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_63 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-660442615cd40\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg 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ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Does_band_or_orchestra_play_a_higher_level_of_music\" title=\"Does band or orchestra play a higher level of music?\">Does band or orchestra play a higher level of music?<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Performing_level\" title=\"Performing level\">Performing level<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Musical_level\" title=\"Musical level\">Musical level<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_woodwind_players\" title=\"Is band or orchestra harder for woodwind players?\">Is band or orchestra harder for woodwind players?<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Orchestra\" title=\"Orchestra\">Orchestra<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_percussionists\" title=\"Is band or orchestra harder for percussionists?\">Is band or orchestra harder for percussionists?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_brass_players\" title=\"Is band or orchestra harder for brass players?\">Is band or orchestra harder for brass players?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Is_MARCHING_band_or_orchestra_more_challenging\" title=\"Is MARCHING band or orchestra more challenging?\">Is MARCHING band or orchestra more challenging?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Are_orchestra_strings_harder_than_band_instruments\" title=\"Are orchestra strings harder than band instruments?\">Are orchestra strings harder than band instruments?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Is_it_harder_to_get_into_a_band_or_an_orchestra\" title=\"Is it harder to get into a band or an orchestra?\">Is it harder to get into a band or an orchestra?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/which-is-harder-band-or-orchestra\/#Final_words\" title=\"Final words\">Final words<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Difference_between_band_and_orchestra\"><\/span>Difference between band and orchestra<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The main difference between orchestras and marching or concert bands is that <strong>orchestras include strings<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Concert and <a href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/what-instrument-should-i-play-in-marching-band\/\"  >marching bands<\/a> only use <strong>woodwind, brass and percussion instruments<\/strong>, &#8211; although a band may occasionally include a double bass or bass guitar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not only are strings an important part of an orchestra, but they provide its fundamental sound. <strong>More than 50% of an orchestra\u2019s instruments are string instruments<\/strong>.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other instruments are from the woodwind, brass and percussion families. Unlike a concert or marching band, however, an orchestra only accommodates <strong>one or two players of the same wind instrument<\/strong>, often playing different parts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Does_band_or_orchestra_play_a_higher_level_of_music\"><\/span>Does band or orchestra play a higher level of music?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Band-vs-Orchestra-Differences.jpg\" alt=\"Does band or orchestra play a higher level of music?\" class=\"wp-image-2403\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Band-vs-Orchestra-Differences.jpg 640w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Band-vs-Orchestra-Differences-300x188.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Performing_level\"><\/span>Performing level<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Generally speaking, a <strong>higher level of playing technique<\/strong> is expected from an orchestral player. This is due to the many difficult passages to be played. This makes it harder to get into an orchestra than a band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The players have to be able to play very difficult passages and deliver all the instrument-specific sounds a composer has prescribed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With this said, it is also true that many concert band players are technically and musically on the same level as orchestra players. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Concert bands often play arranged versions of orchestral music<\/strong>, and some bands are also capable of producing a beautiful and soft sound that compares very well with an orchestra\u2019s sound, especially when playing indoors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Musical_level\"><\/span>Musical level<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Orchestral music is generally perceived as of a higher standard<\/strong>. Through the ages, classical composers have expressed themselves more via orchestral music than band compositions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Composers have explored the sound possibilities of orchestras and written many works with difficult and intriguing parts. This contributes to the idea that orchestral music is not only difficult to play, but on a higher level than any other music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The band genius John Sousa once said that when an orchestra performs, it performs in the belief that it is <strong>educating the audience<\/strong>. When a band is playing, it <strong>entertains the audience<\/strong>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nowadays, however, the difference in level between orchestra and band music largely depends on the type of band being considered.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_woodwind_players\"><\/span>Is band or orchestra harder for woodwind players?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It is generally <strong>harder for woodwind players to get accepted in an orchestra<\/strong> than in a band. One important reason is that there are fewer woodwind players in an orchestra than in a band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In a band, there are normally <strong>more than two players<\/strong> playing the same instrument. The different instruments are grouped and <strong>play the same notes<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All the oboes, for example, play the same line of music and all the clarinets play their specific line of music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If a woodwind player misses a note or even a small passage, it may go unnoticed as similar notes are still played by the others in the group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since many bands (including concert bands) perform outdoors, they <strong>tend to play very loud<\/strong>. As a result, mistakes made by woodwind players may not even get heard by the audience.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Orchestra\"><\/span>Orchestra<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>In an orchestra, on the other hand, there are <strong>fewer woodwind players <\/strong>and generally speaking, only <strong>one instrument of a kind plays the line<\/strong>. Any incorrect note is audible immediately and a note cannot be missed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is also more often expected from a woodwind player in an orchestra to play a <strong>solo passage <\/strong>compared to a band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One situation where a woodwind player might find playing in a band harder than an orchestra is in an marching band &#8211; see further below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_percussionists\"><\/span>Is band or orchestra harder for percussionists?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Percussion-band-vs-orchestra.png\" alt=\"Is band or orchestra harder for percussionists\" class=\"wp-image-2348\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Percussion-band-vs-orchestra.png 640w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Percussion-band-vs-orchestra-300x188.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For a percussionist, playing in an orchestra is also generally harder than a band. The main reason is that it is expected from an orchestral percussionist to <strong>play a variety of percussion instruments<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In a marching band, the percussionist <strong>plays one instrument<\/strong>, whether it is a <a href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/tenor-drum-vs-snare-drum-which-is-easier\/\"  >snare drum, bass drum, tenor drum<\/a> or the cymbals.&nbsp; In a concert band, it can be expected to sometimes play another instrument like a triangle or tambourine as well.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The rhythms played in a concert band are more challenging than in a marching band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In an orchestra, there are generally only one or two percussionists and they have to be able to play <strong>any of the percussion instruments<\/strong> specified by the composer.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These instruments include <strong>ethnic instruments<\/strong> and <strong>instruments with a pitch<\/strong> like the timpani, glockenspiel, xylophone, vibraphone, marimba and tubular bells.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_band_or_orchestra_harder_for_brass_players\"><\/span>Is band or orchestra harder for brass players?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Like woodwind players, it is harder for brass players to perform in an orchestra than in a band. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Apart from being more exposed because the music line to be played is only played by one player, there are <strong>more brass solo passages in orchestral compositions<\/strong>.&nbsp; These solos often require very advanced techniques.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Composers, especially in modern times, also <strong>utilize the extremes of brass instruments<\/strong>.&nbsp; It is expected from the player to produce <strong>very high or very low notes<\/strong>, or to play <strong>very fast passages<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nevertheless, some brass players find <strong>marching bands harder<\/strong>.&nbsp; As brass instruments are generally <strong>large and heavy<\/strong>, it is difficult to produce a good sound and simultaneously perform steps and formations while bearing its weight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_MARCHING_band_or_orchestra_more_challenging\"><\/span>Is MARCHING band or orchestra more challenging?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Marching-band-vs-orchestra-challenging.png\" alt=\"Is MARCHING band or orchestra more challenging\" class=\"wp-image-2346\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Marching-band-vs-orchestra-challenging.png 640w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Marching-band-vs-orchestra-challenging-300x188.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>From a <strong>physical viewpoint<\/strong>, being part of a marching band is typically more challenging than in an orchestra, due to the <strong>marching and instrument carrying <\/strong>aspects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is well-known orchestral players are often <strong>physically and mentally drained<\/strong> after a performance. Marching band members, however, can experience physical exhaustion equivalent to a sports discipline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, compared to an orchestra, the music played by a marching band is <strong>greatly simplified<\/strong>, easy to remember, and often repetitive.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As mentioned, in a marching band, several players play the same music line, and the overall sound is very loud, so mistakes are not nearly as obvious as in an orchestra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Are_orchestra_strings_harder_than_band_instruments\"><\/span>Are orchestra strings harder than band instruments?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>As mentioned, in an orchestra, the string section forms the main part of instruments and provides the fundamental sound. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Strings are generally considered harder to play than woodwind instruments<\/strong>. Woodwind instruments are fixed-pitch instruments, so when the player has mastered the blowing technique, it is relatively easy to play. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More difficult parts including fast passages are required from the string section throughout a whole composition. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The <strong>wind instruments don\u2019t play the whole time<\/strong> while the strings do. Much more is expected from the string section than from the wind section.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, <strong>brass instruments are of similar difficulty to strings<\/strong> because of the different embouchure techniques and the use of harmonics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both strings and brass players must <strong>use harmonics to get the right pitch<\/strong>. The string-player uses a <strong>bow and fingers<\/strong> on the strings to produce the correct note on pitch. The brass player uses his <strong>mouth and airflow<\/strong> to produce a note.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_it_harder_to_get_into_a_band_or_an_orchestra\"><\/span>Is it harder to get into a band or an orchestra?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It is a lot <strong>harder to get into an orchestra than in a band<\/strong>. In a marching or concert band, <strong>there are more places available for woodwind and brass instruments<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The requirements to become a member of an orchestra are also higher than for most bands.&nbsp; <strong>An orchestral player must be a master of his instrument<\/strong> before applying. New players are more easily allowed as members of bands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_words\"><\/span>Final words<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>When all factors are taken into consideration, it is clear that an orchestra is harder than a band to get into and to be a player in. This doesn\u2019t mean that band music is not as important as orchestral music. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both orchestral and band music have important roles to play, for players as well as for audiences.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Skilled amateurs and advanced learners of woodwind, brass, or percussion instruments who are considering careers as professional musicians often wonder which of band or orchestra is more challenging. Playing in an orchestra is typically harder than a band. 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