{"id":1167,"date":"2020-12-23T12:39:10","date_gmt":"2020-12-23T12:39:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/?p=1167"},"modified":"2021-04-01T19:57:56","modified_gmt":"2021-04-01T19:57:56","slug":"trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/","title":{"rendered":"Trombone vs Baritone: which to choose?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>A common dilemma among newer musicians is whether to learn the trombone or the baritone. This question is particularly frequent among high school kids looking to join their school marching band. It&#8217;s also relevant to orchestra band players.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>If the goal is to play in concert bands only, either of the two instruments can be learned as both are in demand. For marching band, it\u2019s better to learn the baritone. While trombones were for years a mainstay of marching bands, many bands now only use baritones. <\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To make the final decision, other aspects also have to be taken into account. These include the differences between the two instruments in build and sound, switching between baritone and trombone, and whether the baritone is bound to replace trombones in concert bands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_63 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-65eec8df8a873\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-65eec8df8a873\" checked aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Differences_between_baritone_and_trombone\" title=\"Differences between baritone and trombone\">Differences between baritone and trombone<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Which_is_better_for_marching\" title=\"Which is better for marching?\">Which is better for marching?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Switching_between_trombone_baritone\" title=\"Switching between trombone &amp; baritone\">Switching between trombone &amp; baritone<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Orchestra_band_can_baritone_replace_trombone\" title=\"Orchestra band: can baritone replace trombone?\">Orchestra band: can baritone replace trombone?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Is_a_baritone_the_same_as_a_euphonium\" title=\"Is a baritone the same as a euphonium?\">Is a baritone the same as a euphonium?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/#Final_words\" title=\"Final words\">Final words<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Differences_between_baritone_and_trombone\"><\/span>Differences between baritone and trombone<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>&nbsp;<\/td><td><strong>Trombone<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Baritone<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Bore and tube<\/td><td>Cylindrical, and only conical near the bell<\/td><td>Conical for a larger part of the tube<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Changing tube length\/pitch<\/td><td>Slide mechanism<\/td><td>Three valves<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Air resistance in the tube<\/td><td>Less air resistance<\/td><td>More air resistance, higher notes easier to play<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Sound<\/td><td>Very similar to baritone but &#8220;brighter&#8221;<\/td><td>Very similar to trombone but \u201cdarker\u201d<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Other<\/td><td>Able to play perfect glissandos<\/td><td>Cannot play glissandos<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Although the trombone and baritone are both brass instruments, they are different instruments. The most obvious difference is that the baritone player uses <strong>three valves<\/strong> to lengthen the tube for pitch changes, while the trombone player uses the <strong>slide mechanism<\/strong> to change the length of the tube.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A larger section of the baritone\u2019s tube is conical when compared with the <strong>trombone\u2019s more cylindrical tube<\/strong>. As a result, the baritone has a <strong>darker tone<\/strong> than the trombone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The trombone can play great <strong>glissandos using its sliding tube<\/strong>. This is something the baritone player can\u2019t replicate. Sound-wise this is a major difference. Orchestral and band composers often utilize this technique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A difference not so obvious to the listener, but very important for the players, is that because of its structure, the baritone offers <strong>more air resistance<\/strong>. Pushing against this extra resistance makes playing high notes easier on the baritone than on the trombone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What the two instruments do have in common, is that they play approximately the <strong>same range of notes<\/strong>. This is because the <strong>length of tubing is roughly the same<\/strong> in both.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Which_is_better_for_marching\"><\/span>Which is better for marching?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"328\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Jupiter-560-series-marching-baritone.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1262\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Jupiter-560-series-marching-baritone.jpg 500w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Jupiter-560-series-marching-baritone-300x197.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><figcaption>Jupiter 560 series marching baritone<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>While trombones are generally part of symphony orchestras and brass concert bands, they are nowadays not so often used in <a href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/drum-corps-vs-marching-band\/\"  >marching bands<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The slide mechanism of the trombone makes it <strong>difficult to march in close ranks<\/strong>, especially if it is a large contingent of trombones. Other band members can even be injured by a trombone player\u2019s sliding action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A <strong>baritone is heavier than a trombone<\/strong> to carry, but it fits better in with a marching band. It is <strong>more maneuverable<\/strong> than a trombone while marching.&nbsp; Many school marching bands have replaced trombones with baritones in their marching bands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s becoming the trend for children playing trombone in a concert band to also learn to play the baritone. This allows them to participate in concerts and be part of the school\u2019s marching band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although it is nowadays widely accepted that the baritone is better for marching, some marching band connoisseurs will always feel something is missing when trombones are left out. Their view is that trombones have been part of <strong>marching band tradition<\/strong> for years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For that reason, some marching band directors still <strong>include trombones<\/strong> in their bands. The trombone section is kept very small so that the necessary three-step distance between the marching rows is not disrupting the band\u2019s formations.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Switching_between_trombone_baritone\"><\/span>Switching between trombone &amp; baritone<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"167\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/trombone.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/trombone.jpg 600w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/trombone-300x84.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Mendini by Cecilio trombone<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>If a trombone player in a concert band wants to play in a marching band which doesn\u2019t include trombones, he\/she needs to learn the baritone as well.&nbsp; Players who are switching between trombone and baritone generally find the switch relatively easy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While they are two different instruments, the range, embouchure, and air intake are very similar. An experienced trombone player normally doesn\u2019t have a problem producing a good sound on the baritone. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the player maters the baritone, s\/he shouldn\u2019t encounter intonation problems either.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>It is considered easier for a trombone player to learn the baritone than for the baritone player to learn the trombone as getting a correct intonation is more challenging with the sliding tube.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The one thing the trombone player initially has to practice a lot on the baritone to make switching easy is to get their fingers \u201cvalve-ready\u201d. The baritone requires pressing the valves in various combinations and in quick sequence. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Holding the baritone, which is heavier than the trombone, also takes some practice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Orchestra_band_can_baritone_replace_trombone\"><\/span>Orchestra band: can baritone replace trombone?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>As the two instruments have much the <strong>same range<\/strong>, the baritone can in principle play the trombone part. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The baritone and the trombone players also typically use the <strong>same clefs<\/strong>. This makes it easy for the baritone player to read and play the trombone part.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, certain trombone specific techniques like a <strong>long glissando<\/strong> cannot be replicated by the baritone. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tone quality<\/strong> is also different due to the baritone&#8217;s conical bore for a large part of the tube. As mentioned, the trombone produces a <strong>brighter tone<\/strong> than the baritone.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When the trombone part is played by the baritone, the <strong>timbre<\/strong> of the music will change. The baritone is often given <strong>countermelodies and solos<\/strong> to play, while the trombone is given the on-beats and off-beats. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For the trained ear, the music will sound different if baritones play both instruments\u2019 parts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>&nbsp;It is generally accepted that the trombone part should be played by the baritone only in \u201cemergencies\u201d when no trombone player is available. The baritone should not replace the trombone in the orchestra band as a permanent arrangement.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_a_baritone_the_same_as_a_euphonium\"><\/span>Is a baritone the same as a euphonium?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"387\" src=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/baritone-vs-euphonium.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/baritone-vs-euphonium.jpg 640w, https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/baritone-vs-euphonium-300x181.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Historically, the terms baritone and euphonium are used interchangeably in the U.S. Nowadays, however, the trend in concert bands and symphony orchestras is to accept the British-European definitions and treat each instrument as unique.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The euphonium is differently built than a baritone. In comparison with the baritone, it has a more conical bore, making it a larger and heavier instrument. It also uses a deeper cut mouthpiece than the baritone. Thus, the euphonium has a richer and mellower sound than the baritone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In layman&#8217;s terms, the sound differences between the euphonium, baritone and trombone can be described as <strong>rich and mellow for the euphonium<\/strong>, <strong>lighter and brighter for the baritone<\/strong>, and <strong>even brighter with a raspy edge for the trombone<\/strong>. The baritone is the \u201csmaller cousin\u201d of the euphonium.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because of its weight and deep mouthpiece, young players often experience that while they can blow enough air to make the Euphonium sound good when they are <strong>standing still<\/strong>, creating great sound <strong>on the march<\/strong> is easier with the baritone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The trend is that in marching bands the euphonium and baritone are used interchangeably, but concert band and symphony orchestra composers increasingly write different parts for the two instruments. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The euphonium part can be compared to the cello part in the string section, while the trombone can be compared to the second violins.&nbsp; Mahler for instance used a euphonium score in his Sixth Symphony in 1903.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Final_words\"><\/span>Final words<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Choosing between the trombone or the baritone as a beginner is a very personal decision. For concert bands only, it&#8217;s a matter of which instrument sounds better to you. Both trombones and baritones are in demand in concert bands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since trombones are nowadays often excluded from <a href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/should-i-do-marching-band-in-college\/\"  >marching bands<\/a>, starting with the baritone may be a better option if you&#8217;re interested in both marching and concert bands. You&#8217;ll be able to pick up the trombone quite easily later on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A common dilemma among newer musicians is whether to learn the trombone or the baritone. This question is particularly frequent among high school kids looking to join their school marching band. It&#8217;s also relevant to orchestra band players. If the goal is to play in concert bands only, either of the two instruments can be &#8230; <a title=\"Trombone vs Baritone: which to choose?\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/trombone-vs-baritone-which-to-choose\/\" aria-label=\"More on Trombone vs Baritone: which to choose?\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1260,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1167"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1167"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1167\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1260"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1167"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1167"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/groovewiz.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1167"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}